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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:46 pm Post subject: Dont' look now but... Reply with quote

A&M is now in a tie for 2nd place in the conference (K-State holds the tiebreaker for conference tourney purposes) and leads Texas for the best record in the South by 1/2 game! Very Happy

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There's still a lot of basketball to be played...
The only given place right now looks to be ku at #1. After that it's anyone in the top 6-8 spot for the taking
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Thanks, I hadn't realized that
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I think that the diehard Jayhawk fans would like nothing more than for KU and A&M to finish 1 and 2 (respectively) in conference.
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ataglance wrote (View Post):
Thanks, I hadn't realized that

I know you aggies have a hard time looking at the big picture
    Your aggies could very easily lose 4 out of the next 5 games if not all 5
no of those games are gimmes.  Non of tamu's remaining games are easy
they could very easily end up going 2-5 in the rest of their schedule
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ataglance wrote (View Post):
Thanks, I hadn't realized that

I know you aggies have a hard time looking at the big picture
    Your aggies could very easily lose 4 out of the next 5 games if not all 5
no of those games are gimmes.  Non of tamu's remaining games are easy
they could very easily end up going 2-5 in the rest of their schedule



You could pretty much say that about every single Big XII Game, but if we really have to say which games are easier than most then traveling to ISU, TTU, OU (all .500 or below) are as easy as it gets for a road game in conference. Obviously getting KU & tu in town will be tough, but at least it is at home. A&M was projected 4th or 5th in most rankings so being tied in 2nd is not too shabby at this point.

Anyway that 2-5 you predicted still gets us to the big dance so anything better is gravy.




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No I agree farmer.  Pretty much same thing about mizzou but I also didn't start a thread being excited about what place we are in the big 12 right now because there are soo many variables left
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 3:51 am Post subject: Re: Dont' look now but... Reply with quote

Farmer1906 wrote (View Post):

You could pretty much say that about every single Big XII Game, but if we really have to say which games are easier than most then traveling to ISU, TTU, OU (all .500 or below) are as easy as it gets for a road game in conference.


um...OU hasn't lost a game at home this year and Tech has only lost 1...im not sure if i'd be counting either of those as gimmes...


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Farmer didn't say gimme, he just said that those road games are about as easy as they come in the conference. In other words, they are not as challenging of a road game as say... Kansas, Missouri or Kansas State. Hard to argue against that.

Tech lost the only home game they played against a team with a winning conference record (Missouri), so their home record may be a bit eschew due to their schedule. Oklahoma looks to be a tough game, though. They do play very well at home.

I would say that if A&M wins 2 more games, they will be on the bubble and subject to the whims of the committee. With 3 more wins, they should be in no matter what. I like their chances for picking up enough wins to make or exceed a 9-7 conference record.
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Farmer didn't say gimme, he just said that those road games are about as easy as they come in the conference. In other words, they are not as challenging of a road game as say... Kansas, Missouri or Kansas State. Hard to argue against that.

Tech lost the only home game they played against a team with a winning conference record (Missouri), so their home record may be a bit eschew due to their schedule. Oklahoma looks to be a tough game, though. They do play very well at home.

I would say that if A&M wins 2 more games, they will be on the bubble and subject to the whims of the committee. With 3 more wins, they should be in no matter what. I like their chances for picking up enough wins to make or exceed a 9-7 conference record.


Exactly glue. I never said anything about gimmies.

OU has beaten OSU, tu, and MIzzou. That's pretty good, but I think A&M matches up well. We already beat them when we clearly weren't playing our best ball too. But this is the Big XII and pretty much nothing would surprise me.

As for 8-8 vs 9-7, 8-8 will get every Big XII team dancing with the exception of OU, ISU, CU, NU and maybe TTU. While it may only be a 9-12 seed, but it'll still be in. Our league is just too deep. 9-7 for teams like A&M, KSU, and tu will probably pout them as high as a 7 and maybe even a 6 depending on how everything plays out.




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Brum, I realize that you are angry at my Aggies after we've smacked your Tigers around 6 straight times but you need to clam down a little man. I'm just making the statement that at THIS POINT in the season we're sitting in a pretty good spot, nothing more. It's a lot better than the 3-6 we were this time last year and the near .500 record that many of us were predicting.
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I'm Calm.   I'm not mad at the aggies. We didn't deserve to win with the 11 min scoring drought

I just think it's stupid to be excited about being tied for 2nd when you have a lot of tough games left.
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Farmer didn't say gimme, he just said that those road games are about as easy as they come in the conference. In other words, they are not as challenging of a road game as say... Kansas, Missouri or Kansas State. Hard to argue against that.

Tech lost the only home game they played against a team with a winning conference record (Missouri), so their home record may be a bit eschew due to their schedule. Oklahoma looks to be a tough game, though. They do play very well at home.

I would say that if A&M wins 2 more games, they will be on the bubble and subject to the whims of the committee. With 3 more wins, they should be in no matter what. I like their chances for picking up enough wins to make or exceed a 9-7 conference record.


Exactly glue. I never said anything about gimmies.

OU has beaten OSU, tu, and MIzzou. That's pretty good, but I think A&M matches up well. We already beat them when we clearly weren't playing our best ball too. But this is the Big XII and pretty much nothing would surprise me.

As for 8-8 vs 9-7, 8-8 will get every Big XII team dancing with the exception of OU, ISU, CU, NU and maybe TTU. While it may only be a 9-12 seed, but it'll still be in. Our league is just too deep. 9-7 for teams like A&M, KSU, and tu will probably pout them as high as a 7 and maybe even a 6 depending on how everything plays out.


Mmmm, I don't know about that 8-8 thing. One thing you have to figure in is that there is a lot of noise in the ACC, SEC and Big Televen. I would bet that there will be an abnormally large number of bubble teams this year due to the lack of any real clear picture in those conferences. Then you have to add in tight mid-major races like the A10... 8-8 might be good enough for some teams with more than one good OOC win, but teams like Missouri, Oklahoma St and Baylor would stand a good chance of missing out if they were to go 8-8.
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Farmer didn't say gimme, he just said that those road games are about as easy as they come in the conference. In other words, they are not as challenging of a road game as say... Kansas, Missouri or Kansas State. Hard to argue against that.

Tech lost the only home game they played against a team with a winning conference record (Missouri), so their home record may be a bit eschew due to their schedule. Oklahoma looks to be a tough game, though. They do play very well at home.

I would say that if A&M wins 2 more games, they will be on the bubble and subject to the whims of the committee. With 3 more wins, they should be in no matter what. I like their chances for picking up enough wins to make or exceed a 9-7 conference record.


Exactly glue. I never said anything about gimmies.

OU has beaten OSU, tu, and MIzzou. That's pretty good, but I think A&M matches up well. We already beat them when we clearly weren't playing our best ball too. But this is the Big XII and pretty much nothing would surprise me.

As for 8-8 vs 9-7, 8-8 will get every Big XII team dancing with the exception of OU, ISU, CU, NU and maybe TTU. While it may only be a 9-12 seed, but it'll still be in. Our league is just too deep. 9-7 for teams like A&M, KSU, and tu will probably pout them as high as a 7 and maybe even a 6 depending on how everything plays out.


Mmmm, I don't know about that 8-8 thing. One thing you have to figure in is that there is a lot of noise in the ACC, SEC and Big Televen. I would bet that there will be an abnormally large number of bubble teams this year due to the lack of any real clear picture in those conferences. Then you have to add in tight mid-major races like the A10... 8-8 might be good enough for some teams with more than one good OOC win, but teams like Missouri, Oklahoma St and Baylor would stand a good chance of missing out if they were to go 8-8.


A&M got in @ 8-8(6th place) with a RPI 47 2 years ago when we didn't have the strongest conference around.

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BU - 26
MU - 47
OSU - 35

MU might be in danger, but no way BU and OSU are.




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Farmer1906 wrote (View Post):
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Farmer didn't say gimme, he just said that those road games are about as easy as they come in the conference. In other words, they are not as challenging of a road game as say... Kansas, Missouri or Kansas State. Hard to argue against that.

Tech lost the only home game they played against a team with a winning conference record (Missouri), so their home record may be a bit eschew due to their schedule. Oklahoma looks to be a tough game, though. They do play very well at home.

I would say that if A&M wins 2 more games, they will be on the bubble and subject to the whims of the committee. With 3 more wins, they should be in no matter what. I like their chances for picking up enough wins to make or exceed a 9-7 conference record.


Exactly glue. I never said anything about gimmies.

OU has beaten OSU, tu, and MIzzou. That's pretty good, but I think A&M matches up well. We already beat them when we clearly weren't playing our best ball too. But this is the Big XII and pretty much nothing would surprise me.

As for 8-8 vs 9-7, 8-8 will get every Big XII team dancing with the exception of OU, ISU, CU, NU and maybe TTU. While it may only be a 9-12 seed, but it'll still be in. Our league is just too deep. 9-7 for teams like A&M, KSU, and tu will probably pout them as high as a 7 and maybe even a 6 depending on how everything plays out.


Mmmm, I don't know about that 8-8 thing. One thing you have to figure in is that there is a lot of noise in the ACC, SEC and Big Televen. I would bet that there will be an abnormally large number of bubble teams this year due to the lack of any real clear picture in those conferences. Then you have to add in tight mid-major races like the A10... 8-8 might be good enough for some teams with more than one good OOC win, but teams like Missouri, Oklahoma St and Baylor would stand a good chance of missing out if they were to go 8-8.


A&M got in @ 8-8(6th place) with a RPI 47 2 years ago when we didn't have the strongest conference around.

RPI
BU - 26
MU - 47
OSU - 35

MU might be in danger, but no way BU and OSU are.


Don't forget how much of that depends on how many bubble teams there are. That year, there were very dominant teams... and not so much teams.

The Big 12 wasn't too shabby that year. Don't forget that the eventual national champions didn't even manage to win the conference outright.
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