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here_comes_sundawg Texas A&M Fan

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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:51 pm Post subject: Any trusth to the Turgeon considering Oregon rumors? |
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| i cringed when i saw that today. seems unrealistic but then again we've been wrong before |
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ataglance Texas A&M Fan

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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:02 pm Post subject: Re: Any trusth to the Turgeon considering Oregon rumors? |
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From Brent Z's blog:
Turgeon, Oregon?: 'I don't get caught up in that'
COLLEGE STATION — Mark Turgeon realizes anything definitive he says now can and might be held against him in the court of public opinion regarding any job openings outside of Texas A&M.
He's smart and conscientious — no wonder he's Big 12 coach of the year, or at least should be — and refuses to back himself into a corner with any authoritative statements on the subject outside of he's just trying to win as many games as possible at A&M (a goal no Aggie can argue with).
In other words, he's handling any questions on the subject the best way possible. Honestly — and vaguely.
Turgeon's good name has surfaced in a couple of newspaper reports as a candidate for a job at Oregon — where he served as an assistant from 1993-97 — so I asked him about it on Monday.
"When I was younger, I'd see my name come up for a job and think, 'Aw, that's so cool,'" said Turgeon, 45. "Now, it's just an annoyance and a pain. What I don't want it to do is become a distraction. But the reason my name is being brought up, obviously, is because I coached there. I know all of the people there. I know the Nike people. That's why it's coming up. Plus, we've been successful."
Ernie Kent is reportedly out at Oregon, and the Ducks are set to open a $227 million — you read that number right — arena in time for next conference season, according to The Associated Press.
Against the odds after losing Chin Elonu to the NBA draft and Derrick Roland to injury, the 22-8 Aggies finished tied for second in the Big 12, and have received a first-round bye in this week's league tournament in Turgeon's old stomping grounds of Kansas City (he played at Kansas).
"The only (positive) thing is if your name is popping up for jobs, that means you've been successful," Turgeon said. "I like that part of it."
What if your players ask you about your name surfacing as a candidate at another school?
"If they ask, I'll tell them exactly what I'm telling you," Turgeon said.
Which is ...
"I just don't (pause) ... I'm committed to one thing right now, and I think everybody realizes that. And that's getting the most out of this team, and taking this team as far as I possibly can take it. If we continue to win, my name is going to pop up with other jobs. That's the nature of the business. I don't get caught up in that.
"You guys know me well enough. I don't have a huge ego. I just don't get caught up in that. I'm always going to do what's best for my program and for my family and for me. I'm just trying to win games."
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I don't think he goes there. Oregon is a rebuilding job (which he stated he doesn't want when he took this job) and he is a family man from what I've heard (probably doesn't want to keep moving his family around). With that said I think he'd be dumb not to at least take a look at the job. |
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Glue-eater
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:29 am Post subject: Re: Any trusth to the Turgeon considering Oregon rumors? |
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| This possibility popped up on the KU boards over the weekend. I discounted it because I could not see anything that showed that Oregon was interested. I personally think that it would be a good move for Turg to consider the possibility and perhaps get a few more bucks out of the experience, but that his stock will rise higher if he sticks around a few years. It just doesn't suit him, IMO, to go up to Oregon and start everything from scratch at this point in his career. |
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Madcat_NU
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:39 am Post subject: Re: Any trusth to the Turgeon considering Oregon rumors? |
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| Though down this year, the P-10 is a generally a pretty good bball conference. In which Oregon has fielded some fairly strong teams in recent years, and their facilities are second to none. Would not blame him for taking this job, and given his past history there I wouldn’t be surprised if he did. |
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here_comes_sundawg Texas A&M Fan

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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:59 pm Post subject: Re: Any trusth to the Turgeon considering Oregon rumors? |
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| Glue-eater wrote (View Post): | | This possibility popped up on the KU boards over the weekend. I discounted it because I could not see anything that showed that Oregon was interested. I personally think that it would be a good move for Turg to consider the possibility and perhaps get a few more bucks out of the experience, but that his stock will rise higher if he sticks around a few years. It just doesn't suit him, IMO, to go up to Oregon and start everything from scratch at this point in his career. |
it just seems to be a lateral move if anything to me. but it would be a great way for him to him to get another quarter million out of A&M per year no doubt.
i also read somewhere that the Oregon football HC has a clause in his university contract that stipulates that he is to be the highest paid coach at the entire school. If there's truth to this, then turgeon cannot get anywhere close to a significant raise by going there. So it would have to be about the program itself if he chose too.
Also, i also distinctly remember him saying he didn't want to go to a program to rebuild....he wanted to go somewhere and jump right in it. Which he had here/has here...versus there he is going to have to get a couple of good recruiting classes in before they are tournament ready again |
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Farmer1906
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:12 pm Post subject: Re: Any trusth to the Turgeon considering Oregon rumors? |
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| I don't see it happening. Turge is building/built something here. I do see the reasoning for UO, but ehh doubt it. |
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Glue-eater
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:25 pm Post subject: Re: Any trusth to the Turgeon considering Oregon rumors? |
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| Madcat_NU wrote (View Post): | | Though down this year, the P-10 is a generally a pretty good bball conference. In which Oregon has fielded some fairly strong teams in recent years, and their facilities are second to none. Would not blame him for taking this job, and given his past history there I wouldn’t be surprised if he did. |
The PAC- 10 has been a good conference, but with Lute Olson gone and Ernie Kent on the way out, that only leaves UCLA as a perennially good team. I see the two conferences as heading in different directions right now. I would think that rebuilding a program in a conference which is on the decline would be much more difficult. While Oregon has been doing fairly well recently, their history really isn't that good and this is at best a lateral move. In all, I just don't see how a history as a assistant coach trumps that of being a head coach. If Turg feels a strong connection to anywhere he has been in his past, it is undoubtedly KU. |
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Farmer1906
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:43 pm Post subject: Re: Any trusth to the Turgeon considering Oregon rumors? |
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| Glue-eater wrote (View Post): | | Madcat_NU wrote (View Post): | | Though down this year, the P-10 is a generally a pretty good bball conference. In which Oregon has fielded some fairly strong teams in recent years, and their facilities are second to none. Would not blame him for taking this job, and given his past history there I wouldn’t be surprised if he did. |
The PAC- 10 has been a good conference, but with Lute Olson gone and Ernie Kent on the way out, that only leaves UCLA as a perennially good team. I see the two conferences as heading in different directions right now. I would think that rebuilding a program in a conference which is on the decline would be much more difficult. While Oregon has been doing fairly well recently, their history really isn't that good and this is at best a lateral move. In all, I just don't see how a history as a assistant coach trumps that of being a head coach. If Turg feels a strong connection to anywhere he has been in his past, it is undoubtedly KU. |
Exactly. That is why I root for Self. As long as he's doing well then KU won't come steal Turge because I think there is 0% chance of keeping Turge away from KU.
The only think I disagree about is it being more difficult to rebuild a team while the conference is on decline. That seems like the ideal time to rebuild when there isn't as much competition. |
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here_comes_sundawg Texas A&M Fan

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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:10 am Post subject: Re: Any trusth to the Turgeon considering Oregon rumors? |
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| Glue-eater wrote (View Post): | | Madcat_NU wrote (View Post): | | Though down this year, the P-10 is a generally a pretty good bball conference. In which Oregon has fielded some fairly strong teams in recent years, and their facilities are second to none. Would not blame him for taking this job, and given his past history there I wouldn’t be surprised if he did. |
The PAC- 10 has been a good conference, but with Lute Olson gone and Ernie Kent on the way out, that only leaves UCLA as a perennially good team. I see the two conferences as heading in different directions right now. I would think that rebuilding a program in a conference which is on the decline would be much more difficult. While Oregon has been doing fairly well recently, their history really isn't that good and this is at best a lateral move. In all, I just don't see how a history as a assistant coach trumps that of being a head coach. If Turg feels a strong connection to anywhere he has been in his past, it is undoubtedly KU. |
if anything he'd rather stay in the conference with Kansas. So he can play them every year as good as we've played them with less talent. Maybe even get a win on them in a good year.....maybe even get a win on them in the big 12 tournament hollerrrrrrrrr
that way the jayhawk fans see how baller MT year in and year out, and when Self Kicks the bucket the first thing they think is, Yo do we still have turge on speed dial? |
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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:36 am Post subject: Re: Any trusth to the Turgeon considering Oregon rumors? |
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| Farmer1906 wrote (View Post): | | Glue-eater wrote (View Post): | | Madcat_NU wrote (View Post): | | Though down this year, the P-10 is a generally a pretty good bball conference. In which Oregon has fielded some fairly strong teams in recent years, and their facilities are second to none. Would not blame him for taking this job, and given his past history there I wouldn’t be surprised if he did. |
The PAC- 10 has been a good conference, but with Lute Olson gone and Ernie Kent on the way out, that only leaves UCLA as a perennially good team. I see the two conferences as heading in different directions right now. I would think that rebuilding a program in a conference which is on the decline would be much more difficult. While Oregon has been doing fairly well recently, their history really isn't that good and this is at best a lateral move. In all, I just don't see how a history as a assistant coach trumps that of being a head coach. If Turg feels a strong connection to anywhere he has been in his past, it is undoubtedly KU. |
Exactly. That is why I root for Self. As long as he's doing well then KU won't come steal Turge because I think there is 0% chance of keeping Turge away from KU.
The only think I disagree about is it being more difficult to rebuild a team while the conference is on decline. That seems like the ideal time to rebuild when there isn't as much competition. |
At this point, I think that Turg is safe from us. If he continues to build his resume... well... that's another story.
I think that there is 0 chance KU would boot Self after he won a NC. If he gets another NC or two, the NBA might come calling. Us KU fans are paranoid like that.
My thoughts with rebuilding are that weak conferences lack two important things: exposure and battle-testing. It is harder to draw in recruits if your conference sucks so much that people can only rarely watch you play on T.V. Adding to that is that if you don't have very many good games, you have a hard time preparing for the level of play in the Tournament. A gaudy record and poor Tournament appearances don't go far in a lot of people's minds. |
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Farmer1906
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:48 am Post subject: Re: Any trusth to the Turgeon considering Oregon rumors? |
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Gotleib just said UO is about to offer Mark Few (Zaga) 3 million a year.  |
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ataglance Texas A&M Fan

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: Any trusth to the Turgeon considering Oregon rumors? |
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Firts: I very well may be mistaken but doesn't Kelly (the current UO coach) have a clause in his contract which makes him the highest paid coach at UO? Isn't he currently making about 1.8 mil? That would end up being a 4.2 mil per year contract if true  8O
Second: Hasn't Few turned down at least one previous UO offer before, I doubt that they would offer anyone other than him quite that much |
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Farmer1906
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:47 pm Post subject: Re: Any trusth to the Turgeon considering Oregon rumors? |
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Texas A&M coach Mark Turgeon, along with longtime NCAA and NBA coach P.J. Carlesimo and Gonzaga coach Mark Few have emerged as leading candidates for the vacant University of Oregon head coaching job, two NCAA sources and one Nike source indicated Wednesday.
According to two of the sources, Turgeon will meet with Oregon representatives this week and is an increasingly likely candidate to replace Ernie Kent, who was fired earlier this month. Apparently Phil Knight's Nike empire, which is integral to the Ducks' athletic department, is weighing options between the company's long and strong relationship with Carlesimo, the West Coast recruiting power of Few and the rising star of Turgeon.
Meanwhile, as the college basketball coaching dominoes fall, Texas-El Paso's Tony Barbee appears to be a done deal as the next Auburn coach, despite interviews reportedly scheduled with North Texas'Johnny Jones and Sam Houston State's Bob Marlin, sources said.
Should Turgeon leave for Oregon and Barbee to Auburn, the coaching landscape in Texas could be turned upside-down, with jobs potentially opening at UTEP, Texas A&M, the University of Houston, North Texas and Sam Houston State.
As the Cougars line up candidates to replace Tom Penders, some of their top targets may turn to greener pastures. Marlin, for example, could be a prime candidate to replace Turgeon at Texas A&M. And Billy Gillispie, long-considered the Coogs' top target, has emerged as a candidate at DePaul, while UTEP also should expect to make a run at their former coach. Gillispie remains a legendary figure in El Paso, where facilities and attendance have been superior to Houston's in recent years.
One college basketball source said that while Texas assistant Rodney Terry, New Mexico assistant Chris Walker and former Rocket John Lucas were indeed candidates, Cougars athletic director Mack Rhoades was looking for a bigger name with established head-coaching experience.
The name mentioned more often of late: New Orleans Hornests assistant and former USC coach Tim Floyd, who has long and deep ties to the Houston summer-basketball circuit.
As for Sam Houston State, among the coaches who could be considered to replace Marlin, Texas Tech associate head coach and Houston native Chris Beard appears to top the list.
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:50 pm Post subject: Re: Any trusth to the Turgeon considering Oregon rumors? |
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| If anyone has a star and an Ag Tag, I'd goto the Aggies Only Board to read up on this topic. |
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:20 pm Post subject: Re: Any trusth to the Turgeon considering Oregon rumors? |
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| Chris Beard as a Houston native, sucks at recruiting Houston. |
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